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Just a couple pics of a neat project .
The s used that load amatic vacuum only distributor and often ( especially after a few mods etc) they just dont function anymore or in some cases at all.
Our fix for this customer was to swap out another ( full mechanical) distributor for the old load a matic vac only unit.
In this case based on being a quality distributor AND using the same rotation etc , we used a cast iron chevy six cylinder unit.
Parts are easy to get and they advance degrees mechanically ( just what the needs).
We tore the apart , cut the lower mounting unit off and cut down the chevy to accept the factory The shafts are different sizes but the donor was used on the lower section and the chevy on the upper .
A pertronixs for the chevrolet was installed and WOW , this makes a really nice old school looking modern unit for the

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When I first bought the truck, I immediately had the V8 swap mentality and then I got to really like driving the truck and then I got to really like pushing the engine to its limits and then I wanted more. Eventually, the engine needed to come out for a re-seal at minimum, but that's not how I am. I am really good at overdoing things, and that's what I'm doing with this. Here's my progress so far. I will update as I go. At some point soon it will be at the machine shop to get worked on.

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The head weighed 75lb, and it was stuck on there really good. With it unbolted and the hoist lifting more than the weight of the head, it still took a fair bit of prying to get it off.

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I labelled all the pushrods for reinstallation later, but I've now realized that I wasted my time as not only will I be needing different lengths, but I'm also switching out to 3/8" pushrods.

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My block had the C6AE casting, which I'd never noticed before. So, concerned, I had to settle my worries and confirm that I had a I did. I was happy.

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I searched long and hard to find myself a head. I don't live anywhere near a wrecking yard with anything pre-EFI era so it was actually a really big deal for me to find one. I put it through an electrolysis bath and it came out great. It's bleached look here is from the WD40 that was sprayed on it to get the water out.

However, when I pulled my head off the engine, I discovered that it actually already had a head. It was a bittersweet moment. I was always looking forward to slapping on a head to see what difference it would make. Turns out I already knew.

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I bought these oversized valves from SI Valves as per a recommendation by a user on this forum. They're well made as far I can tell.

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Here they are compared to an OEM valve out of my junkyard head. Quite a big difference. I probably should've gone up to a " valve as it has better flow up to " valve lift over the ", but that's just me nitpicking. I'll survive.

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In my recent post, I explained that SI actually discontinued their oversized valves for the , so I was forced to buy small block Chevy " exhaust valves. They're the same other than the " length. The Ford length is ". I'll make them work.

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Just goes to show how thousandths matter.

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Perspective aside, you can see they're a bit taller.

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They look sexy as hell together though!

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Anyway, onto the bottom end. I got rods for the engine, as this not only allows for a better rod length to stroke ratio or rod angle, which means less piston side loading and therefore less wear on the pistons and the cylinders, but their added length (") compared to a rod (") allows the use of a smaller, lighter piston, (the pistons I ordered only weigh g each) which means easier high-RPM. The only downside to this is theoretical, in that with the longer rod it will take longer and also not last as long for the explosive forces of the compression stroke to have maximum leverage on the crankshaft, and since torque is measured by (force) x (distance), I will theoretically not have as much torque as I could've with the shorter rods. What I mean by this is that with a short rod, it doesn't take as much downward piston travel for the rod to kick out at 90 degrees to the crank and apply leverage. Because it doesn't take as long for it to do this, the action starts earlier and therefore lasts longer. That being said, this engine is getting built up for power. I'm not going to notice this effect.

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Here's a diagram I drew up of it. Should you go this route, you'll need small block Ford pistons meant for a / stroker as those have the smaller ~" compression height. If you go with the early C5AE casting rods like I did, the ones without the piston oil hole, you'll need pistons with a wrist pin diameter of ". The C5AE rods are stronger. The C8AE oil-hole rods are prone to failure at the oil hole in high horsepower/high stress applications.

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And this is what I'm left with.

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Popped the timing cover off. My cam gear is metal, not nylon fiber like I expected it to be. It does say FoMoCo on it and I seriously doubt this engine has ever had someone messing around with its internals. This is indicative to a heavy duty Wouldn't that be a nice surprise to have the forged crank!

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Pulled the camshaft out. For those who don't know, the procedure to remove the camshaft out of a Ford is to pop off the timing cover, rotate the engine until the timing marks line up, remove the fuel pump, turn the engine upside down, remove the two 1/2" camshaft thrust plate bolts which will be behind two of the four holes in the camshaft gear, and then pull the cam out. It shouldn't be stuck in there. Just be careful to not smash the lobes into anything upon removal. Slow and steady.

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I had the engine upside down, pulled the rod caps off, and then tapped on the studs with the wooden handle of a hammer and had my hand underneath to catch the piston and guide it out. It's always a good habit to lay everything out exactly how it was in the block.

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And then the crank. I knew it would be heavy so for extra assurance I had my dad help me take it out to limit the chances of damaging anything. I put it on the bathroom scale. 70 pounds! Another surprise was the main cap bolts. They came out with a sucking noise as if there was a seal, and sure enough there was. Almost 50 years old and the bolts still have assembly lube on them. Amazing.

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And then I was left with a bare block. I took it today to a machine shop to have it hot tanked.

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I have a lot in store for this engine. Stay tuned to find out what happens.

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After 20 years the FordSix Performance Forum has found it&#;s Xen.

A Short History of the FordSix Performance Forum:

The FordSix Performance Forum was started by J. Collins in on yaBB with it's sole focus dedicated to Ford Inline Six Cylinder engines which are used in everything from Ford Falcons and Mustangs to F-Series pickup trucks. There was a period of steady growth until a hack in disabled the site and efforts to restore it. In the community was resurrected on phpBB where it has remained through numerous version upgrades and hosting changes.

Sometime during that period Collins transferred ownership of the forum to Mike Winterboer of Classic Inlines in Mesa, AZ. Mike was an engineer of performance items for the inline six and major content contributor to the forum. Mike is most known in the community for his development and bringing to market an all aluminum cylinder head with provisions for everything from multi-carburetors to fuel injection - and increased performance for the 'Small Six' inlines.

Sadly, Mike passed away in and yet again the forum and future of the community was in limbo. Luckily, there were several assistant admins with various levels of access to the hosting environment, backups and DNS. Control of the site was established and the site was moved to a new hosting arrangement. The phpBB version was upgraded from 2.x to x.

In , we started exploring other forum options to provide a better user experience. Several platforms were researched, discussed and demo'd during that time. One of the refrains we heard most consistently was "Why can't we use whatever xyz site is using?" Turns out more often than not - 'xyz site' was using XenForo - and those sites are the 'big ones' that everyone in the automotive hobby frequents. So, the decision was made.

On Jan 13, we started the migration. We migrated Users, 46, PM's, 63 Forums, 46, Threads, , Posts and Attachments in about 2 hours. Another several hours were spent setting up things identified in testing that I did not want to monkey with in the old phpBB system.

It hit me a while ago - that here I am a 'nobody' - running a site for a community that has been around since before The sheer amount of technical knowledge that is shared is something you are not going to find anywhere else. Sure, I can run a server and maybe I can run a website But THESE members are awesome! I am humbled by what they do and what they know.

We have found our Xen and our journey begins again. Thank you!

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I believe the Ford was built for more years than any other
inline six, I think the first version was a cu in. The AMC sixes
are pretty good motors in the 4 liter size, I believe some Wranglers
still come with the L. The AMC six is the last pushrod inline six
Detroit design, I think it first came in Ramblers. AMC motors
are starting to get the respect they are due, expecially the /
V8. The AMC pushrod sixes were the last, but benefitted from the
analysis of the Big Three sixes.

The slant six has a 12 port head, the Chevy six has siamezed
intake ports that are a bad design but share a lot of basic
dimensions with a small block, it's too bad a cross-flow Chevy
six was never built. The integral log manifolds on the small
Ford six is bad.

The 5 liter Ford is fundamentally a good design that can be
bored and stroked, it is superior to the Chevy. With its 4" bore
it is kind of long for a Mustang, Maverick of Falcon.

Another option is the GM DOHC Vortec aluminum six. Chevy
fans have practically ignored this recent design, it may yet have
its day in the aftermarket. It is much lighter than the others, can
make lots of power. The is complicated, not many people
have yet swapped a



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After 20 years the FordSix Performance Forum has found it's Xen.

A Short History of the FordSix Performance Forum:

The FordSix Performance Forum was started by J. Collins in 2001 on yaBB with it's sole focus dedicated to Ford Inline Six Cylinder engines which are used in everything from Ford Falcons and Mustangs to F-Series pickup trucks. There was a period of steady growth until a hack in 2003 disabled the site and efforts to restore it. In 2004 the community was resurrected on phpBB where it has remained through numerous version upgrades and hosting changes.

Sometime during that period Collins transferred ownership of the forum to Mike Winterboer of Classic Inlines in Mesa, AZ. Mike was an engineer of performance items for the inline six and major content contributor to the forum. Mike is most known in the community for his development and bringing to market an all aluminum cylinder head with provisions for everything from multi-carburetors to fuel injection - and increased performance for the 'Small Six' inlines.

Sadly, Mike passed away in 2014 and yet again the forum and future of the community was in limbo. Luckily, there were several assistant admins with various levels of access to the hosting environment, backups and DNS. Control of the site was established and the site was moved to a new hosting arrangement. The phpBB version was upgraded from 2.x to 3.1.x.

In 2018, we started exploring other forum options to provide a better user experience. Several platforms were researched, discussed and demo'd during that time. One of the refrains we heard most consistently was "Why can't we use whatever xyz site is using?"... Turns out more often than not - 'xyz site' was using XenForo - and those sites are the 'big ones' that everyone in the automotive hobby frequents. So, the decision was made.

On Jan 13, 2021 we started the migration. We migrated 9627 Users, 46,441 PM's, 63 Forums, 46,493 Threads, 404,611 Posts and 3022 Attachments in about 2 hours. Another several hours were spent setting up things identified in testing that I did not want to monkey with in the old phpBB system.

It hit me a while ago - that here I am a 'nobody' - running a site for a community that has been around since before 2001. The sheer amount of technical knowledge that is shared is something you are not going to find anywhere else. Sure, I can run a server and maybe I can run a website... But THESE members are awesome! I am humbled by what they do and what they know.

We have found our Xen and our journey begins again. Thank you!

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Ford 300 Inline Six Gets Eye-Popping Off-The-Shelf Power - Engine Power S7, E17

Links to the Tech & Specs Section of the former Classic Inlines and fordsix.com Forum

As former customers of Classic Inlines all know, the Tech section built by Mike Winterboer is an invaluable souce of information for nearly everything related to rebuilding and improving the Ford inline 6 cylinder engines.  I take absolutely no credit for the wealth of information available, and, by the same token, accept no responsibility for the validity of the information.  I do know from personal experience, however, there's alot of good stuff there.

Thanks to the "new Management" at fordsix.com, the Classic Inlines Tech info has been preserved!

https://fordsix.com/ci/Tech.html

I would also like to thank the members of fordsix.com for the knowledge I have gained there as well. 

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And, thanks to David and the late Dennis Schjeldahl, authors of

The Ford Falcon Six Cylinder Performance Handbook

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