Dark pyromancy flame

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Well I already upgraded the normal one twice Now I got the dark one which at base stat it is the same as my plus 2 normal Any disadvantage going dark from now on?

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the dark flame gets more powerful as you hollow. someone somewhere tested it and at max hollowing it did about % more damage.

15% would probably be great for PVP, especially if you skip VIG and go for red tearstone OHKOs. Otherwise the fact the normal flame is more consistent is probably an advantage. last thing you need is to co-op and wind up alive with weak pyromancy.

also I don't recall exactly how much weaker it is UNTIL you get to max hollowing. If you don't intend to co-op then go for the dark flame sure.

also dark flame is probably a lot weaker for any pvp character who isn't a glass cannon. I heard various things about sin / the brotherhood of blood covenant reducing your 'hollowed' hp to below 50%. This seems like it would make you incredibly squishy, but I cannot say for sure.

But it seems even the base stats are superior on the dark one. Like a dark +5 would still be more powerful then a normal +5 even when not hollowed. Unless I'm missing some kind of negative effect the dark hand has

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That was my thought as well, I just assumed that the dark flame was better in every way so I started upgrading it with fire seeds.

Ya Now I'm just angry I waisted 2 fire seeds on the normal one

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Regular Pyro does more damage unless you are maxed hollow.

Red tearstone ring only is for physical dmg now guys. Don't forget that.

In the beging Dark is stronger, when u upgrade it regular is stronger.
At 75% HP and fully upgraded, hollow dark and regular are equal.
Bellow that dark wins.

On a side note, flame seeds are pretty easy to farm in the forest of the last giants, after the bonfire drop down the latter and move to the last pillar on the righ side of the ladder.
Equip explorer hat and if u have an excess of rusty coins use them as well.
Now either use binoculars to pinpoint the enemy and just hit him with (lightning spears, soul spear or arrows) and it will start to auto target the lizard right after the second hit, now finish him of.
Equip catring on drop down using the barricaded on the left side.
Collect the seed, from 5 hill i got 3 flame seeds.
Rinse and repeat.

Since my other topic is archived I will post my new test here:
Short version: Dark Pyromancy SUCKS

Here is why: For this test a Pyromancy Flame +10 and a Dark Pyromancy Flame +10 were compared. My INT is 13, FTH Enemy is first enemy in Heides tower at Bonfire Intensity 2.
Spell used: Giant Flameball

Damage with Pyro Flame:
Damage with Dark Pyro Flame after Dying 6 time:
Damage with Dark Pyro Flame after Dying 10 Times (Max Hollow): Damage
This means that if you died 5 times or less Pyro Flame is stronger (If your INT/ FTH are 1 then maybe Dark Pyro is stronger after 5 deaths already, however only slightly)

And at 50% HP (75% with the Ring of Binding) the damage difference isnt worth it

Also compared it for Flame Swathe: dmg with Pyro Flame, with Dark Pyro at max hollow

Pyro Glove Dmg Modifier: + (with 13 INT, 11 FTH)
Dark Pyro Glove Dmg Modifier: + 89 (same int/fth)

As you might guess, Dark Pyro Flame scales WORSE than Pyro Flame (Both are S, but the one of normal Flame is better).

Esentially this means that the bigger your INT/FTH the worse Dark Pyromancy flame will be in comparison to the normal one.

On the other hand if you have very low INT/FTH the difference between dmg output is still not much bigger. Here is the comparison with 5 INT/5 FTH:
giant fireball: pyro flame dmg vs dark pyro max hollow dmg
slame swathe: pyro flame vs dark pyro max hollow

bonuses at 5int/5fth were +79 for pyro flame and +67 for dark pyro flame at max hollowing.

At max INT/FTH probably normal pyro flame stronger than dark pyro flame even at max hollowing!

Short version: Dark Pyromancy Flame is BAD.

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Pyromancy Flame is a Weapon in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered.




Flame medium used by Great Swamp pyromancers. Pyromancers arouse this flame to produce various fire arts.Equip pyromancer flame to produce pyromancy. Attune pyromancies from a scroll at bonfire.Most pyromancies have limited number of uses."
After upgrading:"Pyromancy flame drawing upon the latent power of Quelana of Izalith, mother of pyromancy.For the pyromancer, a flame is a precious thing indeed, to be nurtured, often for an entire lifetime. When the flame is shared, it creates an eternal bond between the parties."




How to Get / Where to Find the Pyromancy Flame

  • Starting equipment for the Pyromancer.
  • Obtained by other classes after rescuing Laurentius of the Great Swamp from the Depths.
  • Also obtainable for all classes through the "Talk" option from Eingyi after having spoken to him while infected with egghead. If you have less than 12 Int Eingyi will not offer you the flame.



  • After you reach +10, you will be able to talk to Quelana of Izalith in Blighttown (Swamp), who can ascend a +15 Pyromancy Flame.
  • Your pyromancies will NOT become more powerful with increased intelligence. Damage only increases with Upgrades. The scaling does however, only affect the punch.
  • Give to Frampt to receive 50 souls.



Pyromancy Flame Upgrade Table

Upgrade: up to +15, with Laurentius at Firelink Shrine after rescuing him in the depths, orEingyi,as a member of the Chaos Servant Covenant, then ascended to +5 with Quelana (see this page)

It takes , souls to upgrade the first path (Pyromancy Flame+15) and another , for the second path ("Ascended" Pyromancy Flame+5)
It takes , souls to fully upgrade all 21 levels of the Pyromancy Flame. For comparison's sake, this is enough souls to gain 55 Soul Levels (starting at SL 1).


Intelligence Bonus


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Why is my dark Pyromancy flame negative?

Why is my dark Pyromancy flame negative?

The dark flames&#; scaling damage number can be red instead of blue, which indicates negative scaling, depending on if you haven&#;t hollowed enough.

Where do I upgrade Pyromancy flame Dark Souls 2?

The flame can be upgraded by Carhillion of the Fold and Rosabeth of Melfia using the &#;Reinforce Pyromancy Flame&#; option.

What does upgrading Pyromancy flame do?

1 Answer. Upgrading a Pyromancy Glove increases the MagAdjust of the glove, which in turn increases the damage of most direct attack pyromancies. Being that Pyromancy does not rely at all on Soul Level, only on purchased glove, it is a go to weapon for playthroughs looking to keep their level at a minimum.

What is the best Pyromancy in Dark Souls?

Dark Souls 3: The 15 Best Pyromancy Spells (& How To Unlock Them)

  • 8 Warmth.
  • 7 Rapport.
  • 6 Boulder Heave.
  • 5 Power Within.
  • 4 Carthus Flame Arc.
  • 3 Great Chaos Fire Orb.
  • 2 Black Flame.
  • 1 Chaos Bed Vestiges.

Does Black Flame deal dark damage?

Pyromancy discovered by grave wardens after High Lord Wolnir fell to the Abyss. Hurls a black fireball. The black flame inflicts dark damage, striking targets with weighty force.

How does pyromancer&#;s parting flame work?

The weapon art&#;s ability is triggered by killing enemies while the flame is active. After killing 12 enemies, the Parting Flame will begin to glow brightly. Activating the WA at this point will cause the player to regain 1 normal Estus flask.

How do you get black flame in ds3?

A pyromancy tome of the grave warden, from the Carthus catacombs. Give to the pyromancer master to learn black flame sorceries. High Lord Wolnir of Carthus succumbed to the Abyss, but the pyromancer later became a grave warden, and discovered the black flame.

Who is the pyromancer master?


Where is Karla the witch?

Located in a locked cell on the ground floor of Irithyll Dungeon, next to the main Jailer group. The key to her cell is the Jailer&#;s Key Ring and can be found in the Profaned Capital.

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Flame dark pyromancy


Parameter Bonus: Strength, Dexterity,Magic, Fire, Lightning and Dark bonuses - The scaling multiplier applied to the [Attack: stat]. Scaling quality is from highest to lowest as follows: S/A/B/C/D/E.
The higher the player's [Str, Dex, Mag, Fire, Light] stat, the higher the [Attack Bonus: Stat] is (found on the player status screen). The higher the scaling letter, the higher the percent multiplier applied to the [Attack: Stat].
This resulting bonus damage is added to the base physical damage of the weapon and is shown in the equipment screen in blue numbers as a "+ X".
Durability: The weapon's HP, when the durability hits 0, the effectiveness of its attacks become weakened to the point of almost uselessness. When an items durability is low, a message will come up saying "Weapon At Risk!" at this point the weapon does not perform at it's best.
Weight: How much the item weights when equipped.
Stability: How well the player keeps stance after being hit
Attack Type: Defines what kind of swing set the weapon has.
Regular(R), Thrust(T), Slash(Sl), Strike(St)

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